Чёрная Звезда Лапласа против Чёрной Дыры ОТО

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Скрыть | 6 мая, ср, 15:44
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Чёрная звезда - “Гиперастроид” в центре нашей Галактики, скорее всего, не шарообразна. Она вытянута центробежными силами в гигантское веретено с “остриями” в экваториальной плоскости, причём, с “острий” постоянно под действием тех же центробежных сил вытекает плазма и делится на множество фрагментов-сгустков - будущих звёзд и планет образующегося там спирального рукава. Это силы кориолиса делят поток плазмы на фрагменты, которые сохраняют момент вращения.
Мы видим этот “Гиперастроид” почти со стороны одного из “острий”, потому и не можем определить реальный его объём и точно оценить массу, а также суммарный момент вращения.
И на “переработку”, таким образом, ничего не складируется. Интересно, что есть масса всяких звездо-подобных фрагментов, которые вращаются вокруг “Гиперастроида”, “обвивая его” своими траэкториями, как нитки вокруг веретена!..

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Скрыть | 6 мая, ср, 15:56
Достижение телом с массой покоя диаметра сферы Шварцшильда так же не достижимо, как не достижима этим телом скорость света, так как для этого его кинетическая энергия должна достичь бесконечности. А где взять бесконечно большую энергию? А нигде не взять.
Все объекты, которые якобы “всем признакам ЧД”, в действительности, соответствуют всем признакам сверхсжатых “Звёзд Лапласа”.
И если мы наблюдаем их в центрах Галлактик, то это, скорее всего, случайно ориентированные по лучу зрения центробежно вытянутые “веретёна” сверхзвёзд.
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Скрыть | 21 мая, чт, 12:25
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Насколько помню из книги Амбарцумяна, сферическая подсистема состоит из особых звёзд, не относящихся к главной последовательности, таких же примерно, как в шаровых скоплениях и шаровых галлактиках, и которые, предположительно, движутся по сильно вытянутым орбитам-траэкториям. Атмосферы их водородно-гелиевые, практически не имеют всяких примесей, как у звёзд Главной последовательности, формирующих спиральные рукава.
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Скрыть | 21 мая, чт, 12:33
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А как они (орбиты-траектории) ориентированы по отношению к диску галактики?
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Скрыть | 21 мая, чт, 12:50
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Как попало ориентированы. Сферическая подсистема - это просто большущее шаровое скопление. Как и эллиптические галлактики. Кстати, считается, что шаровые скопления - это просто очень маленькие эллиптические галлактички. В центрах шаровых скоплений, нет никаких “Чёрных звёзд Лапласа”, просто все звёзды время от времени “падают” через область вблизи центра масс скопления, летят дальше, замедляются на периферии и вновь “падают”.
Орбита получается такая, замысловатая, сильно растянутая.
А в больших эллиптических галлактиках иногда в центре уже что-то есть… Видимо, там плотность “падающих” через центральную область звёзд выше, вероятность столкновений больше, и они, сталкиваясь, постепенно “слипаются” в растущую гиперзведу. Так, постепенно, сферическая подсистема истощается, а гиперастроид растёт, наследуя общий момент вращения шаровой подсистемы. Потом центробежные силы растягивают гиперастроид двумя поднятиями в экваториальной плоскости в гигантское веретено, с концов которого отрывается в плоскости вращения множество фрагментов - звёзд Главной последовательности и планет. Вот из этих шлейфов оторвавшихся звёзд и планет и формируэтся спиральные рукава.
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Скрыть | 21 мая, чт, 13:14
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Гипотетическая ЧД, придуманная как-то в первоапрельском стиле неким весёлым физиком, - это объект, где нейтроны уже не просто припрессованы друг к другу. Это гипотетический объект, где нейтрон меньше в объёме, чем позволяют некие релятивистские законы, которых мы не знаем.
Но как убить сильное взаимодействие - на уровне нуклонов внутри атомного ядра? Вот здесь когда-то уже всё это обсуждалось:
http://forum.membrana.ru/forum/misc.html?parent=1051799856&page=0
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Скрыть | 21 мая, чт, 14:27
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“Туманность Лагуна (слева на снимке) один из самых замечательных объектов в созвездии Стрельца”
Вот, похоже, что это он, поток плазмы, отрывающийся с “острия” гигантского веретена сверхзвезды в центре нашей галлактики - “Туманность Лагуна”! Здесь образуются новые звёзды и планеты спирального рукава!

Вот, ещё

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Скрыть | 8 января, чт 2004 г., 17:37
Если реликтовое излучение возникло в какой-то момент Большого Взрыва, то за прошедшее время всё оно должно было улететь за пределы видимой Вселенной. Если Вселенная замкнута в каком-то там измерении, то наблюдая “облетевшее” всю вселенную по “гипертраэктории” РИ, мы видим картину гипотнтического БВ в сильно замедленном воспроизведении.
Другое объяснение - вселенная “плоскя” (по Минковскому). Большой взрыв не связан с геометрией Вселенной. На некой стадии БВ (догаллактической) образовавшиеся атомы водорода начали схлопываться в вырожденный газ - свободные нейтроны. Излучённые при этом кваны и есть предки реликтового излучения. Мы видим сейчас такие кванты, которые образовались в областях далеко за пределами видимой Вселенной и их большая длина есть КРАСНОЕ СМЕЩЕНИЕ, которое свидетельствует только о дальности их образования (большой скорости движения от нас излучившего их вырождающегося водорода).

Это отсюда: http://forum.membrana.ru/forum/misc.html?parent=1051799856&page=2

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